Discussion:
Bug#914102: gyrus: Intent to remove from Debian
Jeremy Bicha
2018-11-19 13:13:37 UTC
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Source: gyrus
Version: 0.3.10-3
Severity: serious
Tags: buster sid
X-Debbugs-CC: ***@wilsoft.nl

The last release of gyrus was over 5 years ago. gyrus was orphaned in
Debian around the same time. The only upload since then was to remove
a dependency that was being removed from Debian.

gyrus is one of the last packages in Debian using gconf. Although
gconf will still be in the Debian Buster release, its main purpose
there is to provide the gconf-to-gsettings migration helper.

I intend to remove gyrus from Debian very soon. Please respond very
promptly if you agree or object to its removal.

References
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https://bugs.debian.org/732011 (orphan bug)
https://bugs.debian.org/886065 (gconf dependency bug)
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gyrus/commits/master

On behalf of the Debian GNOME team,
Jeremy Bicha
Adrian Bunk
2018-12-01 11:37:39 UTC
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Control: close -1
Control: close 914104
Control: severity 886065 important
Control: severity 885666 important
Post by Jeremy Bicha
...
gyrus is one of the last packages in Debian using gconf. Although
gconf will still be in the Debian Buster release, its main purpose
there is to provide the gconf-to-gsettings migration helper.
I intend to remove gyrus from Debian very soon. Please respond very
promptly if you agree or object to its removal.
...
Speaking with my gconf maintaner hat on, "main purpose" does not make
other usages invalid.

gconf usage is not a valid reason for removal from Debian, and
alternatives like ripping gconf support out of packages or package
removal are worse than keeping gconf support in a package in buster.

To avoid misunderstandings, it is a bug to still use gconf.
But not an RC bug for buster.
Post by Jeremy Bicha
On behalf of the Debian GNOME team,
Jeremy Bicha
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Adrian
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Debian Bug Tracking System
2018-12-01 11:39:06 UTC
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Post by Adrian Bunk
close -1
Bug #914102 [src:gyrus] gyrus: Intent to remove from Debian
Marked Bug as done
Post by Adrian Bunk
close 914104
Bug #914104 [src:gpdftext] gpdftext: Intent to remove from Debian
Marked Bug as done
Post by Adrian Bunk
severity 886065 important
Bug #886065 [src:gyrus] gyrus: Depends on gconf
Severity set to 'important' from 'serious'
Post by Adrian Bunk
severity 885666 important
Bug #885666 [src:gpdftext] gpdftext: Depends on gconf
Severity set to 'important' from 'serious'
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885666: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885666
886065: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=886065
914102: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=914102
914104: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=914104
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Jeremy Bicha
2018-12-01 13:56:09 UTC
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Post by Adrian Bunk
gconf usage is not a valid reason for removal from Debian, and
alternatives like ripping gconf support out of packages or package
removal are worse than keeping gconf support in a package in buster.
To avoid misunderstandings, it is a bug to still use gconf.
But not an RC bug for buster.
gyrus is orphaned with no maintainer, no upstream, and very low popcon.

As far as I can tell, nobody cares about this package. Debian doesn't
even have the last upstream release (0.3.12).

As a "QA package", I think you and I have equal standing to file or
oppose RoQA removal bugs.

But since it looks like you are going to oppose this removal, I will
have to concede that it is not worth me fighting with you about it
now. I think the odds are that it will be removed, it just may end up
happening in July instead of in December.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha

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